Straw man or no, why does the initial
reaction involve talking about perpetrating blunt force trauma on a
complete stranger and not a I think you [optional:
you moron]
are totally wrong and this is why?
This should go without saying, but it's
not okay to engage in a public violent fantasy just because you
disagree with someone. And immediately trying to excuse it by adding
something to the effect of, "but I totally wouldn't because I'm
not actually a violent person" doesn't make it any better.
You still said it. You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube or
unring the bell, pick your metaphor. Someone taking about baseball bats in one sentences and being a totally nonviolent person hahaha in the next is really not something that inspires me to trust the latter of the two opposing statements; it's smarter to assume the worst because otherwise you could potentially, I don't know, get hit in the head with a baseball bat.
If you didn't mean it, why the hell did you say it?
If you didn't mean it, why the hell did you say it?
Frankly,
at that point it just feels like a pathetic little fig leaf. Maybe it
should be followed up with a "wow you're humorless can't you
take a joke?" since that's
classic. I can almost see that as something you'd joke about with
people you know. I've "threatened" to punch a friend or two
of mine in the cock, for example, and it was all good because
everyone involved knew it was a joke.
Because we're all friends.
I am under no
illusions that this person would actually take a baseball bat to me.
To begin with, they don't know me, let alone know where I
live. And frankly, talk is incredibly cheap, particularly on the
internet where you can say shit like that and never have to look the
other person in the eye. That said, it still upset me. It made me
angry enough that my hands shook.
"Joking" or "speaking metaphorically" about hurting someone else isn't a way to engage them in reasoned discourse salted with facts or even hyperbolic posturing. Bullshit talk about violence feels incredibly personal because things like that happen to real people, and it reads as an attempt at intimidation. It adds nothing to discussion. It cuts discussion off with an opening position that is hostile and devoid of reason.
"Joking" or "speaking metaphorically" about hurting someone else isn't a way to engage them in reasoned discourse salted with facts or even hyperbolic posturing. Bullshit talk about violence feels incredibly personal because things like that happen to real people, and it reads as an attempt at intimidation. It adds nothing to discussion. It cuts discussion off with an opening position that is hostile and devoid of reason.
So no. It's not
okay. It's never okay.
This is the most
damning thing, I think. I haven't done it recently, but I'm 99.9%
certain in the past I have said things along that vein, most likely
related to wishing I could punch a politician or two in the face.
I've now come to the conclusion that if I have made even vaguely threatening
statements before, that was wrong, and I deeply
regret it.
Joking with your
friends is not the same as showing your ass on the internet and
talking about a complete stranger that may some day soon read your
statement. Words have meaning. I've committed to not saying things I
don't mean.
And I'm going to
grow the fuck up.
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